[FOTO, INFO] Nissan GT-R oficjalnie Opcje

[subek]

Czy Mine's nie dokonal tego samego prawie na rowni z premiera GT-R'a?

[Wspieraj forum]

[Albert]

Weight reduction, assorted carbon parts, over boost function… the GT-R Spec V is shaping up to be a very special car.

The concept behind the Spec V version of the Nissan GT-R is similar to the Porsche 997 GT2 and the BMW M3 CSL in that they offer reduced weight, structural reinforcement of the body and increased power and torque. The biggest hurdle for the GT-R has to be that of weight reduction, its standard weight coming in at 1740kg. Best Car magazine reported back in February that a carbon hood and front grille were being developed for the Spec V GT-R, it being a crucial part in the Spec V’s weight reduction plan. Nissan wants to reduce weight by a total of 100 - 150kg and to do this the body and interior will get special attention. The doors are one of the main areas where weight can be reduced, so the Spec V will have aluminum door panels over carbon frames with aluminum side intrusion bars.

The carbon ceramic brakes were undergoing high performance trials at Sendai Highland circuit in northern Japan, and although they offer incredible performance on the circuit there is some concern as to how pedal feel will be affected at low speeds encountered in urban areas. Nevertheless, the carbon ceramic brakes will be one of the big selling points of the Spec V and will be easily noticeable with the calipers being coated in silver paint as opposed to the standard gold Brembo calipers. The suspension is still in its testing phase with both Bilstein and SACHS dampers being chosen for further trials. The suspension settings are said to be unforgiving on the street, the focus is on ultimate handling on the circuit so we can expect a harsh ride not unlike a race car.


Best Car only mention a couple of details concerning the engine, those being an over boost function which will increase power output from 480ps up to 520ps, and the inclusion of a titanium exhaust system to make the most of the higher boost level. This goes against reports of the Spec V’s power output being as high as 550ps so we will definitely keep a close eye on any new information as it arises. Moving on to the interior, the electric front seats are quite hefty and it seems a 10kg reduction in weight each side can be had with the inclusion of some carbon frame Recaro sports reclining seats. The rear seats and surrounding trim will be removed to further reduce weight and make the Spec V a genuine 2-seater. Materials like Alcantara and buckskin are likely to adorn the dashboard, center console and steering wheel.

The Nissan GT-R Spec V is expected to sell at around 13,000,000 yen (base model GT-R 7,800,000 yen).

artykuł + zdjęcia

http://www.7tune.com/?p=141

[Javo]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-gt-r-v-spec.html

tekscik i troche fotosow na temat V SPEC

[saleen]

Albert, zdjęcia nie działają, nie można hotlinkować...

[Javo]

Maly newsik o SPEC V

"Best Car sheds even more light on the Nissan GT-R Spec V…

Back on April 7th a development team from Nissan Japan arrived at Nurburgring in Germany to commence testing of the GT-R Spec V with the intent of lapping the famous circuit around the 7 to 8 minute mark. The test car featured carbon brake disks and larger silver 6-piston brake calipers, which along with some RAYS Engineering 20 inch alloy wheels, redesigned carbon front lip spoiler and carbon rear spoiler combined to produce a level of grip and stopping power a step above the standard GT-R. Just prior to this in mid-March, the Spec V test car was seen running at Sendai Highland circuit undergoing rigorous braking tests from very high speed in order to prepare the car for the Nurburgring tests

At around 4pm on April 8th and with unfavorable conditions, the GT-R Spec V produced a lap time (recorded by observers) at the ‘Ring of 7 minutes 25 seconds. The target time for the Spec V was a slightly more optimistic 7 minutes 20 seconds but with a damp track this wasn’t to be realized. To put it into perspective, last year Walter Rohrl piloted a Porsche 997 GT2 at the same track and completed a lap time of 7 minutes 32 seconds, some seven seconds slower than the Spec V. Even more surprising is the gap in lap times between the standard GT-R and the Spec V, the regular model posting a thirteen second slower lap time at 7 minutes 38 seconds. Spec V test driver Toshio Suzuki suggests that given the right conditions the Spec V could very well produce a lap time that could “blow ones mind”. Following the April 8th tests the GT-R Spec V was taken from the Nurburgring circuit temporarily and switched to general road tests.

It has been pointed out that in order to prevent warping of the hood at high speeds of around 300km/h, it was necessary when designing the R35 GT-R to incorporate its now trademark ‘winglets’ on either side of the front bumper. These winglets are still visible on the GT-R Spec V and have not yet made way for the two air intakes we mentioned in our previous article. The front lip spoiler and rear wing are still undergoing tests to achieve excellent front and rear balance but in order to keep drag to a minimum they are unlikely to be changed much from their present design.

A source close to the Nissan development team has confirmed that the Spec V has an unladen weight of 1590kg and a power output of 550ps, but made no mention of an ‘over boost’ function as reported in our previous article. A power improvement of 80ps and a weight reduction of 150kg puts the power to weight ratio at 2.89kg/ps which puts the GT-R Spec V in another league. These figures will likely help the Spec V achieve a ten second 0 - 400m time, a good improvement over the already quick 11.6 second quarter mile of the standard car.

We’ve also got some new information concerning parts you can’t see from the photos of the Spec V.:

The rear diffuser has been changed to a carbon fiber item with a NACA duct added as an exit point for heat that builds up towards the rear of the exhaust.
A stainless steel exhaust system has been used until now to check for signs of weakness in the structure of the exhaust system and points of extreme high temperature. This will be changed to a more heat resistant and lighter titanium item in keeping with the Spec V’s weight reduction plan.
Will debut in October this year.
With the abundant use of carbon fiber and titanium we can expect the Spec V to sell at around 13,000,000 yen."

[hwojtek]

Amuse przeprogramowała komputer zwykłego GT-Ra na ładowanie 1,24 bar. 603 KM, 782 Nm. Czyli mniej więcej tyle, ile ma mieć V-Spec.

[*Sajmon]

Jay Leno i GT-R
http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_...html?vid=244892

[Javo]

Plotki na temat Nissana GT-R i odpowiedzi Nissana North America:
Rumor 1: Nissan’s GPS will only allow full-speed operation in the U.S. at Nissan-approved tracks.

There is no speed limiter on the U.S. spec GT-R unless you count the rev limiter.

Rumor 2: Once a vehicle has been run an approved track, it must be subjected to a post-track safety inspection at a Nissan dealer (brake fluid, suspension, tires, drivetrain, other checks), at an estimated cost of $1,000. Otherwise the warranty is voided.

It is a very good idea to inspect a car of the GT-R’s potential after spending time on a track to verify that everything is still within specifications and not worn. We are investigating offering this type of post-track inspection service to GT-R owners in the U.S. in order to provide the type of customer service some GT-R owners will want.

Rumor 3: The vehicle is set up from the factory with suspension settings for track use, with very high negative camber in the front and substantial toe-in at the rear. If the car is driven on the street with the factory settings the tires will only last 3000–5000 miles, and inner tire wear in the front will be substantial within 1000 miles. The settings may be changed from factory settings for street use prior to delivery, however.

The normal front camber setting is 1 degree 36 minutes negative. This can range plus or minus 10 minutes so if a customer wants to maximize tire wear they can request less negative camber. The rear toe setting is 1.7 mm total toe-in. While these settings are more aggressive than most cars, they are not extreme. The car provides amazing performance and you wouldn’t expect it to behave like a typical car. Based on our testing we anticipate tire life to range from 12,000–15,000 miles in typical street driving. Of course, track usage will definitely diminish tire life.

Rumor 4: The brakes are some type of ceramic composite, and a brake job will cost upwards of $3000.

The GT-R brakes use conventional materials. The brakes have full-floating two-piece rotors. The outer rotor is cast iron and the hub or hat is aluminum. The pads are also conventional materials. They are large Brembos—15-inch rotors front and rear, six-piston calipers front and four-piston rear—so they won’t be inexpensive, but they provide phenomenal stopping performance. We don’t expect a 500-hp engine to cost the same as a 300-hp engine, so we wouldn’t expect 500–hp brakes to cost the same as 300-hp brakes. We don’t have final pricing on the parts yet so we can’t say for certain how much they’ll cost.

Rumor 5: The OE run-flat, vehicle-specific Bridgestone tires, once dismounted, must be discarded. We have not heard if the same requirement applies to the OE Dunlop tires, but that is a reasonable assumption. One of the explanations for this that we’ve heard is that the rims have raised bumps in them at the beads to keep the tire from turning on the rim under acceleration.

Our recommendation is that the GT-R tires not be remounted regardless of brand. The knurled beads do help keep the tires from rotating on the wheels under hard acceleration, but the knurling is primarily there as part of the run-flat system to help keep the tire on the rim in the event of a flat. Remounting the tires is not recommended because of the stretching and flexing necessary to remount the run flat tires on the wheels.

Rumor 6: If any tire on the all-wheel-drive GT-R needs to be replaced, such as for a road hazard, Nissan requires that all four tires be replaced; otherwise the drivetrain warranty is voided.

Because the GT-R is all-wheel drive, matching tire circumference is critical to the performance of the system. We will be providing guidelines to help determine if only one tire can be replaced or if the entire set should be replaced. If the undamaged tires are showing limited wear, it may be possible to replace only the damaged tire. These guidelines have not been finalized yet.

Rumor 7: Estimated annual service costs for the GT-R are $10,000–$15,000.

Service costs for the GT-R will vary greatly depending on usage so we do not have an estimate of annual service costs. But these estimates seem very high, however. There are a series of Performance Optimization Services (POS) required for the GT-R. The Performance Optimization Services (POS) are inspections and adjustments (if needed) of three major vehicle performance systems: Engine settings, transmission settings, and wheel alignment. These services are required to keep the car functioning at optimal performance and are done free of charge for the first 36 months. These services are necessary to keep the warranty in full effect for these systems.

The first Performance Optimization Service is performed at 1000 miles. The subsequent services are performed at 12, 24, and 36 months. Additionally, it is recommended these services be continued annually beyond the first three years, but they will be at customer expense.

While this is not a free maintenance program since it doesn’t include oil changes or other maintenance, it should make keep the ownership costs pretty reasonable for such a high-performance car.

Rumor 8: Nissan is struggling with finalizing the full-disclosure form that customers are required to read and sign prior to taking delivery.

We are still finalizing the delivery materials but I wouldn’t characterize it as struggling. The GT-R is unique in offering incredible performance to a very broad range of customers so we want to make sure we provide as much information as possible to the customer at delivery to make sure they have a great ownership experience.

Rumor 9: Only the dealer principal is allowed to sell this vehicle. Salespeople are not allowed to sell it, related to the risk that the salesperson may not properly inform the customer about the details of the full-disclosure documentation.

This is a customer-service issue not a disclosure issue. When choosing to become Certified GT-R dealer, the dealers agreed to designate the dealer principal, executive manager, or general manager as the dedicated GT-R sales representative. Since the GT-R will attract a unique customer, Nissan decided a dealership executive would be best positioned to present the vehicle and facilitate the transaction most effectively with potential customers. The ownership experience will be critical to the success of the GT-R, and this requirement involves a dealership executive in a face-to-face relationship with the customer. This should be a positive step for customer satisfaction.

BTW Wysral sie jeden z pierwszych GT-Row. 600km i skrzynia zaczela wariowac.
"I was just driving fairly normal. had done 2 hard launches in it and it has got 600ks on it so its just like new.and yes the importer is goin to cover all costs so thats one good thing.i do think the tranny may have be the weak part of the car. it has got 2nd and 3th gears 1st and 4,5,6, hav gone and the engine will not go over 1500rpm now.i was just going home one nite at 60-70 mph and it just lost rpm and lost gears.i just made it home. and thay have been working on it for 2weeks now but do not know what to do with it so its off to japan be back in 6-7 weeks i hope."

[Albert]

BTW Wysral sie jeden z pierwszych GT-Row. 600km i skrzynia zaczela wariowac.
"I was just driving fairly normal. had done 2 hard launches in it and it has got 600ks on it so its just like new.and yes the importer is goin to cover all costs so thats one good thing.i do think the tranny may have be the weak part of the car. it has got 2nd and 3th gears 1st and 4,5,6, hav gone and the engine will not go over 1500rpm now.i was just going home one nite at 60-70 mph and it just lost rpm and lost gears.i just made it home. and thay have been working on it for 2weeks now but do not know what to do with it so its off to japan be back in 6-7 weeks i hope."

Tak, skrzynia to najsłabszy element auta jak na razie, czytałem nawet w którymś z feedów RSS że jeśli ostro katowana regularnie na torze to może przeczyć mniej więcej rok. Ile w tym prawdy nie wiadomo, ale bardzo skomplikowany mechanizm skrzyni + duże zwiększenie mocy poza fabryką na pewno nie będą pomagać żywotności skrzyni. W tym samym artykule było nawiązanie iż wersja V-Spec ma mieć wzocnioną skrzynie. To mogą być wszystko plotki wiec tak naprawdę by sprawdzić niezawodność auta trzeba poczekać jakiś czas.

[saleen]

Pewnie wszyscy pamiętamy świetny rezultat GT-R na Ringu. Dla przypomnienia:

7:38 - Nissan GT-R
7:40 - Porsche 911 Turbo
7:42 - Corvette Z06

Nissan uznał jednak, że wynik jest za słaby i po ponownych próbach ustanowili (seryjnym autem na seryjnych oponach rzecz jasna) czas 7:29

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080501.002/of...gring-in-7m-29s

Ja nie wiem jak to jest możliwe przy tej masie i mocy (nawet uwzględniając gifty od fabryki)
To auto nagina prawa fizyki....

[Albert]

[Javo]

Pewnie wszyscy pamiętamy świetny rezultat GT-R na Ringu. Dla przypomnienia:

7:38 - Nissan GT-R
7:40 - Porsche 911 Turbo
7:42 - Corvette Z06

Nissan uznał jednak, że wynik jest za słaby i po ponownych próbach ustanowili (seryjnym autem na seryjnych oponach rzecz jasna) czas 7:29

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080501.002/of...gring-in-7m-29s

Ja nie wiem jak to jest możliwe przy tej masie i mocy (nawet uwzględniając gifty od fabryki)
To auto nagina prawa fizyki....

NISSAN: "We don't defy physics with the GT-R, we apply it properly."

[tomeQ]

"the GT-R used was a base specification car and fitted with the standard Japanese market tires" ciekawe, czy chodzi o seryjne Bridgestony, czy inne "standardowe" pochodzace z Japonii.
Poczekam na testy w wykonaniu nie fabrycznej ekipy, tylko kogos z europy bo masa tego klocka poraza i nawet superhiper naped nie zmieni przyczepnosci opon. 7.32 pojechalo gt2 na semislickach, przy czym bylo 50KM mocniejsze i 300kg lzejsze, a kierowal nim W.Rohl . Ogladnalem sobie tez filmiki z przejazdu gt-ra i gt2 i na "Karuzeli" gtr mial czas lepszy od gt2 o 30 sekund, wiec albo w drugiej czesci stracil 30s (a nie wydawalo mi sie), albo ktos robi z klientow idiotow (niekoniecznie nissan).

[saleen]

Poczekam na testy w wykonaniu nie fabrycznej ekipy, tylko kogos z europy bo masa tego klocka poraza i nawet superhiper naped nie zmieni przyczepnosci opon.

Co prawda to taka bardzo ogólna opinia, ale Top Gear pisało już, że 911 turbo faktycznie nie trzyma się GT-Ra na winklach

Choć fakt że te czasy wydają sie wręcz niewiarygodne...

[Albert]

trzeba pamiętać o skrzyni, która jest bardzo szybka i działa prawie jak skrzynia sekwencja, a na tym też można sporo zyskać

[tomekGTI]

Słuchajcie, mam pytanie. Może trochę dziwne, ale...

GT-R będzie w Polsce dostępny (tzn. pierwsze sztuki) w 2009r. przy cenie ok. 340 000 zł.
Co sądzicie, jeśli byłby dostępny w Polsce (od ręki) w lipcu 2008r. GT-R US SPEC za jakieś 320 000 zł to znalazłby się kupiec ?

[Franio]

Znalazłoby się wielu kupców, jeśli jednak myślisz o tym żeby go sprowadzić to przeczytaj cały wątek.

[Rav.]

na ebayu była akcja gtra i cena przekroczyła 100k usd , retail jest 70k , a dealerzy robia z cenami co chcą , więc szansa że kupi sie auto w usa łącznie z opłatami za 300k jest mizerna.

Ogólnie japońce zrobili wozidło z nieporównywalnymi osiągami do ceny , a nie zadbali o etap produkcji (nie spodziewali sie takiego sukcesu ? w co raczej wątpie) , Nissan przy większym nakładzie mógłby sie wybić jako producent prestiżowych sportów konkurujących ściśle z Porsche... Ciekawe tylko jak wykorzysta sukces gtr...

[Javo]

wystarczy kilka telefonow i gwarantuje ci ze znajdziesz dealera ktory sprzeda ci auto za <80 000$. Ja po wykonaniu 10ciu telefonow znalazlem w Nowym Jorku goscia co chcial mi sprzedac GT-Ra za 76 000$ z terminem dostawy na poczatku lipca (tak mnie zapewniano) Ale to bylo jakis miesiac temu wiec nie sadze zeby jeszcze byly jakies wolne zamowienia na pierwszy termin (wlasnei poczatek lipca)

Ja bym sie nie zdecydowal za GTRa US spec za 320 000. Dlaczego?
-Bo cena jest za wysoka, jak na auto ktore jak sie zepsuje, to trzeba wsadzac w kontener i wysylac spowrotem do USA. Trzeba pamietac ze GT-R to nie jest zwykly Nissan jak 350Z czy Altima i z naprawa moze byc ciezko.
-Podejscie dealerow w USA tez nie do konca mi odpowiada. Goscie powplacali kase jeszcze w marcu, i nie wiadomo czy beda mieli auta w tym roku, czy w przyszlym... Nie maja zadnych informacji na jakim etapie jest ich zamowienie, i czy w ogole zostalo przyjete przez glownego Nissana. Czesto jest dosyc slaby kontakt na lini dealer-klient. Troche sie to wszystko rozni od podejscia w Europie, gdzie ktos kto zamawia swojego GT-Ra, przed wydaniem swojego auta, bedzie mial okazje pojezdzic po torze takim autem, beda jakies eventy z GT-Rami i takie tam gadzety

Ja po przemysleniu kilku spraw, doszedlem do wniosku ze lepiej jest poczekac na europejska premiere i kupic takie auto w Europie, i miec gwarancje. To nie jest byle auto, ktore wstawi sie do ASO nissana i tam wymienia co trzeba. Tego auta nikt nie chce w ogole dotykac poza wyspecjalizowanymi ASO. Najmniejsza awaria, blad kompa i dupa zbita. A jak wiadomo samochody z pierwszych miesiecy produkcji sa na pewno bardziej podatne na rozne awarie niz auta z pozniejsza data produkcji.

[przemko27vr4]

Super kopiujecie teksty w jez. angielski z innych stron.A moze jak jestescie tak dobrzy to zamiast kopiowac,tlumaczcie na polski.