swap m52b28tu do e36, Witam poszukuje schematu wtyczki złaczeniowej karoseri e36 Opcje

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Witam jak w temacie robie swap w e36 comact 1.8 ti na m52b28tu poszukuje schematu wtyczki która wychodzi z karoseri do silnik po lewej stronie komory koło puszki bezpieczników. pozdrawiam i z góry dziękuje

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chodzi o wtyczke x20 25 pin?

1 - GE CAN HIGH DME>ABS/ASC/EGS
2 - BR CAN LOW DME>ABS/ASC/EGS
3 - GR/VI DME>EXHAUST FLAP MS41 (SW/GN TEMP SWITCH>INST M1.7.3/M5.2)
4 - SW/BL DME>A/C RELAY MS41/MSS50/M50
5 - SW/GR SW/BR(SW/GR M50) DME<AC PRESS SWITCH (GN/VI>AUX FAN MS41)
6 - VI/GR DME>CLIMATE ON SIGNAL
7 - GN DME<EWS SIGNAL(RT/WS<GN M51 SW/VI<GN 4CYL) (SW/VI DME<OBC M50)
8 - RT/WT DME RELAY (SW/GR DME>AUX FAN RELAY M5.2) (GR CHECK ENGINE M50)
9 - BR/RT-WS/GR/GE (WS/GN) ABS SIGNAL DME-ABS / OIL TEMP>INST M3
10 - BL/GE REVERSE LIGHT>
11 - BR/GE ECTEMP>INST
12 - BR/VI ECTEMP>INST
13 - GN/VI EKP RELAY>EKP
14 - SW/WS DME<SPEEDO OUTPUT (M1.7.3 MSS50 M41)
15 - SW/GN T30H STARTING>OBC/ZKE
16 - WS/GE RXD DIAG
17 - WS/VI TXD DIAG
18 - SW/GE T50 STARTER<IGNITION/EWS MSS50
19 - WS/GN SERVICE>INST
20 - SW TD ENGINE SPEED>ALL
21 - GN POWER T15S> IGNITION SWITCH AT RUN/START
22 - GN/WS POWER T15 SWITCHED 12V POWER AT ACC/RUN/START
23 - BR/GN OIL PRESSURE WARNING LIGHT>INST
24 - WS/SW TI DME>INST
25 - SW (M3 318TDS (BL M50) ALTERNATOR>INST

jak znasz angielski to tu masz dokladny opis:

There are 25 pins in total, I've been sticking to a bit of a key, treating it as Engine Loom>Car Loom.

The key is-
Pin Number -
Wire colour - engine loom side (German, main / stripe)
Wire colour - car side if different
Signal name
>output or <input
Destination

for example-
7 - GN DME<EWS SIGNAL(RT/WS<GN M51 SW/VI<GN 4CYL) (SW/VI DME<OBC M50)

Pin 7
GN - Green wire,
DME's input from the EWS
Green on both side usually
(RT/WS red/white stripe connected to green on car side for M51 Diesels)
(SW/VI black/violet stripe connected to green on 4cyls)
(SW/VI black/violet stripe connected to the OBC for the CODE feature on M50 non EWS)

This is the immobiliser wire which may carry either the EWS signal on EWS cars, or a simple "don't start if grounded" (Autobox position, CODE, alarm etc) on non EWS cars.


There may be errors, there are lot of changes, and I've been through 2-3 different ETMs gathering data but here's a more detailed guide to each wire.

1,2 - CAN high and low, this is a data signal of engine speeds, road speeds etc, and is shared between a bunch of different modules such as the Autobox, and ABS/ASC. These may not always be present
3 , this controls the exhaust flap on 328s or a temp switch on 4 cyls
4 - output to the Aircon relay to switch the A/C on
5, Aircon Pressure switch, lets the ECU know whether the a/c works or not. On MS41 (323/328) this seems to be also linked through the Aux fan relay too, so the fan will only switch on if there is A/C pressure
6 - Aircon on signal from ECU to A/C module, A/C button etc
7 - EWS or DWA signal, grounded=no start on non EWS, for EWS cars, this needs to put a coded signal to the ECU
8 - This is a power supply, it keeps the EWS supplied with power (always on) or may go to the Aux Fan relay on M44 cars. This is also the live that gets switched for flashing the Check engine light on OBD1 cars. If you remember the OBD1 check engine light, you connect a live wire to this pin, and the ECU will ground it allowing power to flow and light a light bulb if you are trying to do code reading
9 - This is an ABS signal on most cars, I believe it is the "reduce power" signal, but also M3s use this as the Oil temp sensor for the instruments
10- Reverse light switch
11/12 - Temp sensor signal from the dual temp sender to the temp gauge in the Instruments. One part send a signal to the ECU, the other connects just to the instruments. Some late cars such as compacts don't use a direct
link like this, they use a data signal from the ECU
13 - Switched output from the fuel pump relay on the engine loom to the fuel pump
14 - Speed signal input to the ECU from the clocks.
15 - "Starter activated" signal, this is sent out to devices like the radio etc, getting them to shut off for a second to route more power to the Starter
16,17 - Diagnostic lines, TXD and RXD
18 - T50 - Terminal 50 is the start signal, live when the starter is activated
19 - Service light reset from Diag plug pin 7 to the Instrument cluster to reset the lights
20 - TD RPM signal from the engine to the instruments
21 - T15- live wire when the ignition is at run or start, (but not at the Acc / radio on), power signal to ECU
22 -Switched power from the ignition from ACC/RUN and START, coming from a 10A fuse,
23- Oil pressure warning light to instruments
24- Ti fuel consumption signal from the ECU to the instruments/OBC
25 - D+, output from the alternator to the alternator / battery light.



German Colours are as follows-

BL - BLUE
BR - BROWN
GE - YELLOW (Pay attention to that one!)
GN- GREEN
GR -GRAY
OR - ORANGE
RS - PINK
RT - RED
SW - BLACK
VI- VIOLET
WS- WHITE
TR - TRANSPARENT


Most cars will have a few of those missing and unused, but if you are experiencing problems after an engine conversion, have a look at both the engine loom side, and the chassis loom side, and make sure everything is where it should be.

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dzięki bardzo

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jakby były jakieś wątpliwości to pytaj bo w tych wtyczkach było wiele zmian w zaleźności od konkretnego auta

[x357x]

Potrzebowałbym jeszcze schemat ews 3???

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schemat wewnętrzny czy pinout ?

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scheamt pinów i prosiłbym jeszcze ews2 jakbyś miał

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ews3

1 : STARTER MOTOR
2 : IGNITION SWITCH - CRANK
3 : IGNITION SWITCH - INSTRUMENT PACK
4 : IMMOBILISATION CODED SIGNAL
5 : TRANSPONDER COIL
6 : PARK / NEUTRAL SIGNAL ( AUTO GEARBOX )
7 : NOT USED
8 : NOT USED
9 : GROUND ( GND - TERMINAL 31 )
10 : POWER ( +12V - TERMINAL 30 )
11 : AUXILITARY POWER
12 : TRANSPONDER COIL
13 : K-BUS

ews2

Pin 1 -2.5mm Black/Yellow – Output to starter relay
Pin 2 -0.35mm White/Violet – connects to any diagnostic line (K-Line)
Pin 3 – 2.5mm Green/Black – Start signal (+12v) from ignition barrel
Pin 4 – 0.35 Green – Code signal to ECU -> Pin 10 on ECU.
Pin 5 – Red/Yellow -Permanent Power supply from fuse 31 / fusebox.
Pin 6
Pin 7 – Brown – Ground
Pin 8 – 0.5mm Black/Green from ZKE/ZVM body control module (deadlocked = no start)
Pin 9 – 0.5mm Brown/Black – Gear Selector switch (Park/Neutral) for automatic transmission
Pin 10
Pin 11
Pin 12 – 0.35mm Black – TD/Engine RPM signal
Pin 13 – 0.35mm Blue – Data line from send/receive module
Pin 14 – 0.5mm Blue/Red/Yellow – Vehicle Alarm Signal – (active alarm = no start)
Pin 15 – 0.35mm Black/Green CODE function from OBC. Grounding this wire stops the vehicle starting

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Wielkie dzieki.

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zawsze do usług

[KonradGT]

Można wiedzieć skąd bierzesz te schematy?

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Mam na kompie pare GB schematow,pinoutow I innych opisow elektroniki do BMW, jak cos potrzeba to pytac. Sporo jest tez na wds ale e36 juz tam nie ma

[Chycu]

Odkopuje temat pytaniem laika
Kupiłem na części rozbite e36 z wrzuconym m52b28TU. Auto miało gaz, który został wyjęty, wiązka wygląda jak jakieś spaghetti, puszka bezpieczników rozszabrowana, auto nie odpala. Wyjąłem świece z cewką i o ile dobrze przeprowadziłem test to nie ma iskry. Czy ktoś jest mi w stanie powiedzieć czego potrzebuje m52b28TU aby odpalić? Nie potrzebuję zegarów itp, itd, chce tylko odpalić silnik w budzie żeby potencjalny kupiec sobie mógł posłuchać. Jakieś czujniki, przepływka, wiązka budy musi być podpięta? EWS raczej wykluczam bo auto jeździło z tym silnikiem kilka lat.
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